still a big issue. what do you think about europe right now? have we made progress? and what's to come? >> well, i think there's some big, long term things they need to do in europe over the next 5-7 years. they've done some structural forms. they've raised their pension ages. they've done labor market reforms. nothing has happened in the united states. absolutely nothing. and i think their reasons for optimism from the shale, which, by the way, that's an area where people are excited to talk about that. and, you know, there's some optimism coming from the easy money, i suppose, still. but i think in the united states, you know, if we get to the consensus, which seems to be 3% at the end of the year, i think that would be good. >> let me ask you about the economy. relative to what ee's going on washington. we voted that the house extended to see a debt ceili ining for a months. how does this play out? >> forever. i mean, that's the short answer. forever. they don't agree.